THE PLOT AGAINST TOM DeLAY: What Did Shadow Party Operative Robert Borosage Know, and When Did He Know It?
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by Richard Poe Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:55 pm Eastern Time |
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We all know that Tom DeLay is being framed (and, if you don’t know, you can start your remedial education by reading this post by NRO blogger Stephen Spruiell and this one by Captain Ed; you can also bone up on crooked prosecutor Ronnie Earle in this Wall Street Journal editorial).
What we need to find out now is how the Democrats managed to pull it off and who did the dirty work behind the scenes. Framing a national political leader is risky business. A lot of bribes, threats and hush money need to be spread around. May I suggest that we begin our investigation with one Robert L. Borosage, who is co-director of something called the Campaign for America’s Future (CAF)?
In the November 29, 2004 issue of the Marxist journal The Nation, Borosage co-wrote an article with Nation editor Katrina Vanden Heuvel. They wrote:
“[P]rogressives drive this party now – we provide the energy, the organizers, the ground forces, the ideas, and much of the money. We should organize the opposition [against Republicans]. Progressives should mount a powerful assault on Republican boss Tom DeLay.“
A hard-left militant during the ’60s and a graduate of Yale Law School – where he served as a political mentor to young Hillary Rodham – Borosage subsequently headed the National Lawyers Guild, a radical organization that began in the 1930s as a Soviet front, operated in conjunction with the Communist Party and to this day basks comfortably and proudly in its Communist heritage. Later Borosage headed the Institute for Policy Studies, a far left Washington think tank that has enjoyed close and unsavory involvements with Soviet and Cuban intelligence operations.
Borosage currently serves as co-director of the Campaign for America’s Future (CAF) – a leftwing activist group founded in 1996, whose list of advisors includes Sixties radical Tom Hayden; former SDS president Todd Gitlin; former SDS radical Heather Booth; NOW founder Betty Friedan; Jesse Jackson and social scientist and activist Frances Fox Piven, a founder of the “welfare rights movement” of the late ’60s and early ’70s whose strategy of deliberately overloading welfare rolls to break the “system” actually bankrupted New York City.
When Borosage wrote in November of last year that “progressives” needed to “mount a powerful assault on Republican boss Tom DeLay,” was he just blowing hot air or was he revealing knowledge of an actual plan, formulated by people wealthy and powerful enough to pull it off?
For more background on this question, see my FrontPage article of April 11, 2005, “Soros Shadow Party Stalks DeLay.”
by Richard Poe
September 29, 2005 02:55 PM ET
Cross-posted from MoonbatCentral.com 09.29.05
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Check out what others are saying about this post...peedoff – better yet rick santorum – rick santorum – rick santorum for president! we know how glibs hate real christians – a strong man of G-d. now that will get them all huffing glue again!
POA,
Don’t flatter yourself; a couple of tinfoil-hat-wearers on the internet don’t really get under my skin.
Nixon was a commie? Wow, that’s the first time I’ve heard that one. The EPA may be a mixed bag, but it’s better than giving a power plants a ticket to ride on mercury contamination in our rivers by reclassifying mercury as a non-hazardous material. Do you realize my wife can’t eat fish without risking sending that neurotoxin directly into our child’s bloodstream?
I didn’t know “real Christians” were in favor of poisoning children in the womb. Maybe you’ll have a different view of protecting drinking water from neurotoxins when you have children on the way. In not maybe you deserve one that turns out autistic — reaping what one sows and all.
As for grand juries, I’m not sure of the specifics in Texas, but I do know that grand juries expire. Where I work, they can’t hear evidence for more than 6 months. If Texas has the same rule, it makes perfect sense to get 6 juries in 36 months. He may not have had the same evidence at the time of the first six. This suggests that some of the other recent indictees in the money machine got flipped. The timing of the lobbyist indictments line up very well to support this possibility.
That is indeed true (re:Publius) PeedoffAmerican.
212, how did a bogus argument over the EPA get in here? Mercury doesn’t have a whole lot to do with DeLay’s legal trouble unless it can be shown that Ronnie “Showboat” Earle is eating the stuff.
Distorter,
if you’re still lurking about I’d just like to say good riddance. I knew that if we pointed out your faux republican credentials often enough, you’d be banned.
You are, without a doubt, the most repulsive human being I’ve ever encountered. Later days, Perry Mason.
Redbeard,
I think I was pretty clear that it was a response to those here who think that anyone who disagrees with the party line, even when it goes against our prinicples, is a “RINO.” The EPA was an example of what the party used to be capable of — back when stopping people from poisoning our drinking water and food supplies was important to us, even if the interests involved could buy off the Dems of the day.
And if you’re going to question going slightly off-topic posts… well, I’m just a kettle here, and there’s plenty of pots who would make much better targets.
Apples and oranges, 212. RINO is a term of disrespect, reserved for a select bunch of spineless weasels, not people who worked to clean up the water. You could also try to tell me that Everett Dirksen was a RINO when he courageously saw to the passage of the Civil Rights Act, but you wouyld be wrong. The RINOs we’re concerned about are the ones like the infamous Gang of 7, conspiring with Dems to block progress toward a Supreme Court that will interpret law, not make it.
As for DeLay, I’ll repeat myself for perhaps the 4th time on this board. If guilty, he should pay the penalty. No special slack, no defense of criminal acts (if there are any), just the application of the law. I believe you indicated a fondness for the law yourself, so I’m a bit confused about this part of the argument. The only people who have found DeLay guilty at this time are members of the screaming left, and I simply won’t join that crowd.
But the topic here is about the possibility that DeLay was targeted, and improperly charged, via a left-wing political scheme that may include Ronnie Earle and his buddies. It’s a discussion of possibilities, not a trial. Just as in the case of DeLay and the law, I want the same justice to apply to a prosecutor who may or may not have misused his powers, and to any others involved in such a plot, if that is the case.
212 writes: “And I take offense to the RINO label: just because we didn’t abandon our principles (fiscal responsibility, strong criminal justice, appropriate military support) as soon as unified government picked up an (R) after its name does not make us “in name only.�? Maybe being robbed blind lets you following that way?
“Do you forget that the EPA was founded by Republicans? Does it make me less of a Republican because I want to pass down that legacy, and potable drinking water, to my children? Should I be purged because I think mercury should be treated as a hazardous chemical? Stalin purged his party too. Those tactics aren’t going to save our party or our country from the blowback we’re brewing in the name of holding onto power in the near-term.”
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Dear 212:
Let me introduce myself. I am the moderator of this blog.
I will allot you exactly 100 words in which to convince me that you’re a Republican, as you claim, and not just another leftist infiltrator pretending to be a Republican, like so many others I have banned from this site in recent weeks.
So far, I see no evidence from your posts that your views resemble those of any known faction of the Republican Party, no matter how obscure or alienated, either past or present. But perhaps you can convince me otherwise.
We allow leftists to post comments here, provided they are honest about who they are, and that they engage us in a civil and intellectually coherent fashion. But imposters of any sort are strictly prohibited.
I think you’re a phony.
Start talking, please. The clock is ticking.
Tick-Tock..Tick-Tock
212,
like all liars, you think you’re smart enough to deceive the rest of us. Big mistake, moron.
Didn’t 212 show up just about the time dissenter was banned?
Shi-bo-leth. (See, no lisp.) I’d tell you to check the voter registration rolls, but this place isn’t important enough to warrant giving the tinfoil hat contingent my address…. Ban me if you want, this being your property, but as much as you don’t want to admit that there are centrist Republicans, “purging” us won’t make us cease to exist in the real world.
POA,
Is there some problem that makes you incapable of scrolling up? you want to know when I started posting, use [ctr + F] to find the handle. Although you may not be good at distinguishing between people who disagree with you on anything, it’s important to know that not all difference of opinion is traced back to a single source.
Ooo, a purge! Wait – I’ll go get my popcorn.
212 – #113 – we, like you can pretend.
redbeard – is it too early for a cold one with that popcorn? i assume it is afternoon somewhere in the world!!!
212/Dissenter says: Do you realize my wife can’t eat fish without risking sending that neurotoxin directly into our child’s bloodstream?
Funny, my wife is nursing and was told by our Dr. that fish is safe to eat 1-2 times per week. What wacko is giving you this bad advice?
212/Dissenter says: Maybe you’ll have a different view of protecting drinking water from neurotoxins when you have children on the way. I[f] not maybe you deserve one that turns out autistic – reaping what one sows and all.
Rather disgusting to wish autism upon a child, any child, Mr. Do-gooder. If you are not banned by the moderator, you’ll need to prove without reasonable doubt how our drinking water causes autism, citing specific incidents backed by medical experts, to prove your radical assertions are true. I know for a fact you cannot.
212/Dissenter says: He may not have had the same evidence at the time of the first six. This suggests that some of the other recent indictees in the money machine got flipped. The timing of the lobbyist indictments line up very well to support this possibility.
Two-bit conspiracy hacks can suspect anything to validate their points of desire. However, to be taken seriously the burden of proof lies with the accuser. You have accused the jury of being repicked because of fuzzy rules you are guessing played a role, when there is nothing to back up your claims but your own dreamy musings. This may seem repetitive, but again, you are going to have to prove your case and not just recklessly toss about your tinfoil whims.
212/Dissenter says: Are these guys really Republicans? Would a real Republican ever out a CIA operative? What have we been doing these last few years?
Since not a single republican I have ever met believes Valery Plame was “outed” by Republicans, and in fact the evidence has overwhelmingly proved that this was a politically contrived move by Bush’s anti-war enemies, you again, must in fact prove your case. I know I’m beating a dead horse here, but the bottom line is you consistently take unproven leftist allegations and use them as facts from to launch attacks against Republicans. These are not tactics even the most liberal of Republicans would consider, which puts you in the position of having to show evidence that you are NOT a moonbat posing as a disgruntled republican. The burden of proof, once again, is upon you.
212/Dissenter says: It just so happens that a conspiracy indictment does not require much in the way of specifics because it is involvement with a separate crime (successful or attmepted), the elements of which do not have to be included in the indictment.
You are doing a better job than one of Delay’s own spokesmen of proving that this case should be viewed with great skepticism. As you yourself are showing us, unintentionally perhaps, is how conspiracy indictments in Texas require essentially NO MERIT. It is for this reason we may all conclude that the indictment is likely weak and unsubstantiated.
In conclusion, your repeated history of unwaveringly siding with flimsy leftwing accusations, that have never successfully been proven, leads us to deduce that you are indeed the phony Richard has accused you of being. It is for this reason – that you are a fraud rather than a forthright leftwinger – that you will absolutely, and justifiably, be permanently banned from this site.
Does the jury have a verdict on charges of moonbat fraud?
“Yes, your honor.”
And the verdict is?
“Guilty on all charges, your honor.”
Bu-bye, 212/Dissenter.
-MZ
212 writes: “Ban me if you want, this being your property, but as much as you don’t want to admit that there are centrist Republicans, `purging’ us won’t make us cease to exist in the real world.”
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“… don’t want to admit that there are centrist Republicans…”? Please.
My native state of New York, where I have lived all my life, is the very wellspring – indeed, the original source – of “centrist” Republicanism. I daresay I have met every sort of “centrist” Republican one could ever imagine.
Here we have Rockefeller Republicans, Lindsey Republicans, Giuliani Republicans, Bloomberg Republicans, McCain Republicans, the whole unseemly gamut. But I have never met a Republican – “centrist” or otherwise – whose views even remotely resemble yours.
Yesterday, I invited you to explain, in 100 words or less, what makes you a Republican. You declined the offer.
Very well. I’ll make it again. Please tell us, in 100 words or less, what makes you a Republican.
I expect an answer this time.
Sounds good to me. I’ll need to adjust my Barcolounger a bit……
you have a barcolounger? life has been good to you. i cannot wait for the centrist’s response. this may not be the longest thread, but it may go longer in time terms. i promise to check back at least six or four (coonass) times a day.
What makes me a Republican? Short answer: I do. I’ve already outlined what I think is important, and much of it is in damn short supply these days. (Which is not to say it isn’t in shorter supply on the other side.) Aside from that, I don’t need to prove jack to you or anyone else; see you at the primaries.
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Madzionist: I was refering to the facial sufficiency of the indictment, not the underlying proof of them — see my comments about evidence (which we don’t get to see yet) and trials.
And I’m glad your wife can eat a limited amount of fish now that your baby’s out. My son’s still inside, so my wife can’t.
Anyone who thinks its OK to poison my son (or anyone else’s children, for that matter) while he’s in the womb deserves to have their own offspring subject to all the same crap I have to navigate around. Call it the “smell test” (or “shoe on the other foot,” or “reap what you sow”) for environmental protection: if you don’t want your prenatal children exposed to it, don’t put it in my food or water. If you think that’s too extreme a measure (with all due respect, it may just be one of your catty and hypocritical comments), you vastly underestimate the lengths I’d go to for my children.
212 writes: “What makes me a Republican? Short answer: I do. I’ve already outlined what I think is important, and much of it is in damn short supply these days. (Which is not to say it isn’t in shorter supply on the other side.) Aside from that, I don’t need to prove jack to you or anyone else; see you at the primaries.”
212 earlier wrote: “I’d tell you to check the voter registration rolls, but this place isn’t important enough to warrant giving the tinfoil hat contingent my address…”
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So you are registered as a Republican somewhere, and you vote in Republican primaries. That proves nothing. Lots of leftwing activists register as Republicans in order to cast bogus votes for unelectable RINOs in the primaries. It’s the oldest trick in the world.
I asked you twice to tell me in 100 words or less what makes you a Republican. Twice you failed to do so.
What’s the problem?
You are posting on political topics, on a political blog. Obviously, you have an interest in politics. Why then do you get so evasive and tongue-tied, and put on such a show of wounded dignity, when I ask you a straightforward political question? Are you a man or a mouse?
Last chance, 212. Tell me now, in 100 words or less, what makes you a Republican.
212 writes: “Anyone who thinks its OK to poison my son (or anyone else’s children, for that matter) while he’s in the womb deserves to have their own offspring subject to all the same crap I have to navigate around. Call it the “smell test�? (or “shoe on the other foot,�? or “reap what you sow�?) for environmental protection: if you don’t want your prenatal children exposed to it, don’t put it in my food or water. If you think that’s too extreme a measure (with all due respect, it may just be one of your catty and hypocritical comments), you vastly underestimate the lengths I’d go to for my children.”
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You say that we should not “underestimate the lengths” to which you would go for your children.
What do you mean? Are you saying that you would deliberately poison the children of people who disagree with your views on toxic waste disposal?
happy rosh hashanah everyone – salvation is of the jews!
Richard Poe,
What part of “I do” didn’t you get? Calling me tongue-tied doesn’t make it so. I already told you what I look for, but it wouldn’t make for your good sound-byte: “small goverment, fiscal responsibility, or adequate support for military” and again “fiscal responsibility, strong criminal justice, appropriate military support.”
I’d put personal responsibility in there as well. So, not only would I expose others to what they expose my child to, I’d go to jail for it… assuming of course that serving it is somehow a crime. But if what they pump into our water (where do you think fish come from?) is so harmless that they should be able to have 15 additional years to clean it up (the result of re-defining mercury as “non-hazardous”), it shouldn’t be a problem to have their expecting-mothers eat it too, right? Sauce for the goose, and all?
So, as long as we’re sharing, what makes you one?
212 writes: “So, as long as we’re sharing, what makes you [a Republican]?”
We are not “sharing.”
Frankly, at this point, the only reason that I can see for continuing this vile conversation is to determine whether or not I have a duty to report you to the proper authorities as a dangerous psychopath.
The threat you have made against the wives and children of your perceived enemies has rendered all other topics moot.
To whose wives and children are you referring, sir? And what exactly are you suggesting that you might do to said wives and children, for which you might be punished with imprisonment?
Please be specific.
212 sounds like a crazed (oxymoron, I know,) libertarian (libertine.) Just another geek that changes his screen alias every time he’s thrashed in an argument.
Thoroughly dishonest and filled with hatred.
212 sure does have a mercury fixation. As for me, I can’t wait to join up with my other conservative friends later today; we’re gonna go dump mercury in the city water supply. Why, you ask? Because all conservatives want to kill people (including ourselves) with polluted water and filthy air. It’s our life’s work.
not to defend 212, but perhaps his wife is having a difficult pregnancy and there was mercury found in amniotic fluid during amnio-sentesis. it is scary if so. you ought to let him slide on the mercury business. and, no, i do not believe he is a republican either.
nanc writes: “not to defend 212, but perhaps his wife is having a difficult pregnancy and there was mercury found in amniotic fluid during amnio-sentesis.”
Uh, nanc, are you sure you aren’t taking this Christian charity business a little too far? This guy is saying he wants to poison people’s kids!
We may feel sorry for a dog with rabies – after all, it’s not the poor doggie’s fault! – but we shouldn’t let our sympathy stop us from doing what has to be done. If we let the dog run loose, it’s going to bite someone.
mr. poe – no i am not. but having had one difficult pregnancy i know what craziness people are prone to. i just believe going on and on about mercury poisoning in our water has gone too far. he’s obviously mad. that fact has been established. poison comes in all forms. the fact that he has had a cup of it in hopes the rest of us die does not diminish the fact that he is just plain mad. he has no affect on me.
are you looking to expel me from moonbat?
a p.s. for mr. poe – according to http://religioustolerance.org, as of 2000 there were 2,039 million christians worldwide (32% and dropping)
now, it seems to me, being a smarta$$ christian, that it would behoove you and yours to engage us rather than try to persecute us the hell out of here. i like moonbat and do not know many christians who engage in the topics found here.
nanc writes: “are you looking to expel me from moonbat?”
Uh… no, actually. It hadn’t crossed my mind. I thought we were on the same side.
nanc also writes: “it seems to me, being a smarta$$ christian, that it would behoove you and yours to engage us rather than try to persecute us the hell out of here.”
With all due respect, nanc, I think you’re severely overreacting to something or other.
First of all, if you regard my above remarks as “persecution,” may I suggest that your persecution tripwire is strung a little too tight?
Secondly, what’s all this stuff about “you” and “us”? I happen to be Catholic. Where I come from, that means I’m as much a Christian as you are.
Maybe you don’t consider Catholics to be Christians – a lot of evangelical types don’t. Maybe you think the Pope is the anti-Christ. But however you choose to interpret my remark about “taking this Christian charity stuff a little too far,” I offered that opinion as one Christian to another.
It may be true, as you say, that you don’t know “many Christians who engage in the topics found here” at Moonbat Central, but you know at least one… me!
I think I’m experiencing anti-Catholic persecution! 🙁
i am not anti-catholic – i grew up in irish catholic surroundings – i never understood them then and do not understand them now, but that does not mean i am anti-catholic. i believe there are good and bad eggs in every nest. my faith studies are not geared to apologetics. i study israel and what israel means to christians.
nanc, I apologize for getting you upset. Please forgive me. Can we be friends again?
of course, richard poe. but i am not upset now or before. the people i know who get upset have to carry antacid with them at all times – i don’t want any of that. you know what they say, “it’s not what you’re eating, it’s what’s eating you!” friends indeed if that’s how you want it. besides when i’m upset i write in caps! AND YOU BETTER NOT BE JERKING ME AROUND!!!
now i will go finish my job – what i’m payed to do. see you later.
oh, poe, one more thing before i go – catholics have the best booze, southern baptists have the best fried chicken, pentecostals have the best potluck casseroles, seventh day adventists have the best vegeterian potlucks, and that is as far as my apologetics go. if you want to get a good comic book on christianity, it is called: “a handy guide to swimming with the fishes” and can be had a wittenburg door.
What about us Druids? 😉
I just hope we can close ranks and form a united front before 212 comes back. He’ll rejoice in our division. 🙁
Family dispute, that’s all. My two sons will argue all day, but let some outsider start something with one of ’em, and they’re a team. 🙂
druids…hmmmm…legendary wizards and magicians…quite possibly the best potions, redbeard. as for your sons – at least they are the same sex. i have a teen son and teen daughter – if they don’t spoil each other on the opposite sex no one will. yes, mr. poe, we must close ranks. consider me rank’d. do you really think he’ll come back?
nanc writes: “yes, mr. poe, we must close ranks. consider me rank’d.”
Thank you! 😀
nanc also writes: “do you really think (212 will) come back?”
Yes, I’m afraid so. He is like the vampire who cannot enter a house unless invited. But once in the door, no earthly power can keep him away until he has drunk his fill.
p.s. does this also mean we must keep a united front? so many questions…
perhaps the druid could concoct something to keep him away…perhaps a mercury-laced cocktail? that was baaaaaaaaad.
speaking of united fronts – there is an interesting picture of brittney spears on drudge right now.
What’s the going price for a pair of those today?
r.b. – wouldn’t know – mine have never met – good for me at nearly 50! besides i believe she is lactating – what a show-off.
Mommie!!!!! Mommie!!!!!! I’m hungry!!!!! Waaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!
lactating babies can’t talk, peedoff. at least they shouldn’t be able to. shame on you. although that might work for ms. spears.
Is silicone good for babies?